Rethinking God with Tacos Podcast
By Jason Clark
Rethinking God with Tacos PodcastMar 07, 2023
Jared Neusch & Connor Shram / Jesus vs. The Bad Guys
Jared Neusch, Connor Shram, and Jason discuss the importance of bringing the Jesus way to the center of children's understanding and experience of God. The conversation focuses on Jared and Connor's new children’s book, Jesus vs. The Bad Guys, which aims to introduce children to the true nature of God and the concept of forgiveness. This wonderfully illustrated book invites kids to explore the goodness of God through imagination.
They discuss the shift from a contractual to a covenantal understanding of faith and the significance of Jesus' faithfulness in the process of salvation. The conversation explores the idea of teaching children about the importance of experiencing and understanding the love and acceptance that Jesus offers. It delves into the concept of nonviolent peacemaking and forgiveness, challenging the traditional view of a retributive God.
The conversation also touches on the book of Revelation and the idea that Jesus' way of forgiveness and nonviolence is what ultimately redeems the world. The guys share their personal experiences with their children and how they navigate the complexities of faith and peacemaking.
For more on Jared Neusch & Connor Shram
Jesus vs The Bad Guys / Available on Amazon
Jared Neusch www.instagram.com/jaredneusch
Connor Shram www.instagram.com/connorshram
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Bill Vanderbush / Unveiled Horizon
In this conversation, Bill Vanderbush and Jason discuss the shift from a desperate, performance-based Christianity to living in the goodness and simplicity of Christ. They explore the concept of the goodness of God and the danger of limited perception. They also touch on the deconstructed community and the reformational period the body of Christ is going through.
The conversation emphasizes the importance of living in union with Christ and beholding His authentic nature. Overall, the discussion highlights the need to embrace astonishment, wonder, and the simplicity of the gospel. Bill discusses his book 'Unveiled Horizon' and the motivation behind writing it for his children and future generations. He shares how the book resonated more with the New Age market than the Christian market, highlighting the disillusionment with Western Christianity and its organizational structures.
Bill talks about rediscovering neglected verses and the process of deconstructing his faith to focus on the goodness of God. He emphasizes the importance of resting in the finished work of the cross and the journey of radical commitment. The guys also explore the story of Peter in the Garden of Gethsemane and the concept of the long game of love. They dive into reconciliation and living in alignment with God's intention. Bill emphasizes the importance of understanding and experiencing the fruit of the covenant that is available to us through Jesus.
The conversation explores justice and dismantling paradigms, removing accusation, and living in our true identity. It concludes with a discussion on universalism and the long game of love.
For more on Bill Vanderbush
Website: www.billvanderbush.com
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Randy & Lesli Bixby / Cultural Architects
In this episode, Randy and Leslie interview Jason Clark, a relational theologian and author. They discuss the challenges families face today and the importance of rediscovering cruciform love. Jason emphasizes the need for heart-to-heart connection in marriages and parenting, as well as the significance of mutual indwelling and oneness in family relationships. They also highlight the transformative power of God's love and the importance of understanding one's identity and purpose in God's design for family.
Randy and Leslie share their experiences and the work they do to help families thrive. This conversation explores the themes of redemption, restoration, and the kindness of God in the context of family. They share personal stories of overcoming challenges and finding healing and emphasize the need for a comprehensive strategy for the family and the importance of equipping families with practical tools. The power of listening prayer and living loved are discussed as transformative practices. The conversation concludes with a lighthearted discussion about the significance of food, specifically tacos, in family life.
For more on Randy & Lesli Bixby
Website: www.culturalarchitects.org
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Caleb Campbell / Disarming Leviathan
Recognizing our shared humanity, approaching Christian nationalists in love, ethnic erasure, navigating fear, violence, and the political and religious divide, personal transformation and hospitality, finding heaven's solution to the immigration problem, shifting towards unity and compassion, creating language to communicate better alternatives, navigating potentially caustic interactions with leaders in the evangelical world, the influence of money and power in American Christian nationalism, the church growth model of American Christian nationalism, the exhaustion of maintaining a divisive posture, and seeing the manifold wisdom of God in all people, in this conversation Caleb Campbell shares with Dubb Alexander and Jason about his forthcoming book, Disarming Leviathan.
For more on Caleb Campbell
Substack: www.rcnc.substack.com
Website: www.disarmingleviathan.com
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Bishop Jamie Englehart / Epignosis — A Deeper, More Personal, & Experiential Knowledge
“It can be true of us but not true to us.” Epignosis- a deeper, more personal, and experiential knowledge, the grace of apostolic ministry, the importance of connection and community, objective and subjective truth, encountering God's love and affection, the role of works in grace, moving from church mentality to Kingdom thinking, experiencing the truth goodness of God, living in freedom, the invitation to union and clearing the lens, the nature of hell and darkness, the relational dynamic with God, being light and working out salvation, living in the ease of His life, and the partnership between faith and action, in this conversation, Bishop Jamie Englehart and Jason dive into union and the journey experiencing our theology.
For more on Jamie Englehart
Facebook: Facebook
Website: www.connectinternationalministries.com
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Bryant Spratlin / The Third Option
In this conversation, Jason and Bryant Spratlin discuss the goodness of God and the journey of rethinking God's wrath as love, the impact of misinterpretation and bad theology, hearing God's voice, parenting and apologizing, choosing to love and staying connected, identity, loving the religious, imaginary prayer, the fear of being wrong, rethinking hell, apokatastasis-the restoration of all things, the pleasure of our Father, awakening to the present love reality, and Jesus as the perfect minister. The guys discuss the story of the woman caught in adultery to reveal the paradigm of union as the third option Jesus offers all of us. Overall, this conversation highlights the importance of understanding God's goodness and the transformative power of grace.
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Andre Rabe / Processing Mimetic Reality
The scapegoat mechanism, the subversion of myth, the anthropological story of humanity, the message of the blood of Jesus, understanding mimesis and desire, the transformative power of relationships, the relational nature of reality, the interconnectedness of all things, peace and beauty and seeing the sacred in every moment; in this conversation, Carlos, Jason, and Andre explore the concept of mimetic theory.
For more on Andre Rabe:
Website: www.alwaysloved.net
X / Twitter: @AndreRabe1
Facebook: www.facebook.com/wordmadeflesh
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Bob Switzer / The Epic Narrative
In this conversation, Bob Switzer shares his journey. Women in ministry, shifting from exegetical to narrative preaching, challenging traditional church structures, and pursuing authenticity, in this conversation Bob discusses the importance of Jesus as perfect theology and the need to reexamine problematic scriptures.
Bob also reflects on the loneliness experienced as a pastor and the lack of long-term friendships. He highlights the significance of exploring new theological perspectives and embracing the goodness of God. In this conversation, Bob Switzer and Jason discuss the misconceptions of podcasting and the unique format of Bob's podcast, The Epic Narrative.
They delve into the exploration of the life of David and the complexity of his story. They also touch on the importance of rethinking God and approaching scripture with a Christocentric hermeneutic. The conversation highlights the dualism in the story of Balaam and the liberty found in understanding the goodness of God. They conclude by emphasizing the significance of living in the eternal now and the freedom that comes from discovering the true character of God.
For more on Bob Switzer
Website: www.thebobswitzer.com
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Malcolm & Cheryl Smith / The Storyteller
Early encounters with Holy Spirit—the Gospel, growing in the language of love, shifting paradigms from separation to union, the conviction of God’s goodness, The Prodigal Son and the Good Father, Jesus the storyteller, and the significance of presenting the gospel through story, prison ministry, and transformative love, the Eucharist, the eternal now, gratitude and enjoyment; in this conversation Malcolm and Cheryl Smith share their background and journey in ministry, highlighting key moments of encounter and revelation.
For more on Malcolm & Cheryl Smith
Website: www.unconditionallovefellowship.com
Website: www.malcolmsmith.org
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Cherith Fee Nordling / Finding Our Home In Jesus
Encountering Jesus in the Gospels, studying Scripture in community, embracing a relational theology centered on the love and grace of God, Gnosticism, confession, repentance and restorative justice, Jesus, the temple and a whip, the prophetic act of Jesus, the wisdom of Love, the concept of inclusion, the importance of embracing diversity, and the meal where everybody’s “in;” in this conversation, Cherith shares personal transformative stories of faith and trust and hope, and invites us to find our home in Jesus.
For more on Cherith Fee Nordling
Website: www.opentableconference.com/matthew-class
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Chris EW Green / The Israelite Heals, That's All You Need To Know
In this conversation, Jason, Matthew, and Chris discuss the concept of union with Christ and its implications. They explore the idea that Jesus identifies completely with humanity and suffers with us. They also discuss the difference between a simplistic understanding of union and a profound understanding that recognizes the fullness of our identity in Christ.
How the master-slave paradigm is misused to justify power and control, speaking truth with love and authority, Christian nationalism and how it undermines the integrity of the gospel, the concept of the fear of the Lord and how it leads to perfect love, breaking conspiracy thinking and the hope we can know because God is in Christ reconciling the world to Himself, in this podcast, the guys start and end with the hope of the Gospel—God is in Christ reconciling the world to Himself
"The Israelite heals, that's all you need to know." Jefferey
From, Cormac McCarthy's, The Passenger.
CHAPTERS
03:16 The Concept of Union
11:46 The Radical Union with Christ
19:21 Living from Union
21:15 The Narrative of Master and Slave
32:46 Speaking Truth with Love and Authority
40:29 Using Jesus' Teachings for Political Gain
44:28 Christian Nationalism and the Integrity of the Gospel
48:46 The Fear of the Lord and Perfect Love
52:58 Breaking the Cycle of Fear and Conspiracy Thinking
56:18 The Future of Christianity in America
58:28 The Deconstruction Movement and the Search for Jesus
01:04:36 The Israelite Heals: Finding Hope in Jesus
For more on Chris EW Green
Website: www.substack.com/@cewgreen
For more on the guest host, Matthew Hester
Website: www.hesterministries.org
For Links to the articles and videos mentioned in this podcast:
God Is Not A Master — YouTube Teaching
God Is Not A Master — Substack Link
The Israelite Heals — Substack Link
Curt Thompson MD / Imagination To Incarnation
Neuroscience and human relationships in the context of the biblical narrative, living in the path of oncoming beauty, moving from imagination to incarnation, being known, a peace beyond understanding, secure attachment—being seen, soothed, safe and secure—left brain right brain imagery, and The Soul of Desire, I this conversation Curt invites us to see beauty as we create beauty, as we become beauty because we are paying attention to Father who never leaves.
QUOTES
“Beauty is always coming toward us.” “We are co-laboring with God to help people tell their story more truly.”
“God's primary mission has not changed…Genesis three doesn’t mean we forget about Genesis one and two… It’s still the case that we are being formed into the image of Jesus in order for us to become like Him so we can rule to create and curate beauty and goodness in the world.”
“Because I am primed to pay attention to danger, I don’t practice looking for beauty…”
“Jesus’ capacity to see beauty just around the corner… with the man with the withered hand, with the woman caught in adultery… has everything to do with the degree to which He experiences Himself as a non-anxious presence in the world because He is so deeply connected with a Father who loves Him.”
“Unless I feel the love of God in my chest, it isn’t yet fully real to me...”
“We are the embodiment spread over the world…we are the gospel…we are so loved by God that He wants us to be His representative, we are His incarnate presence…”
Jesus to us – “I am no further away from you now than before you made the mistake.”
“You will see beauty as you create beauty as you become beauty because you are paying attention to me, who is never leaving.”
“God is not so self-conscious, so anxious that He won’t share Himself with us. He’s not worried that somehow, we’re going to do something, and He’s not gonna get credit.”
For more on Curt Thompson MD
Website: www.curtthompsonmd.com
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Felicia Murrell / And: The Restorative Power Of Love In An Either/Or World
“How do we move toward each other in love, the truth of our authentic power? Perhaps, we welcome change instead of resisting it. To expand my worldview beyond the paradigm of Southern, Christian, rural, or working poor to a larger cosmic frame that is inclusive, universal, affirming, and accepting, I needed to see the parts and the whole in all their majestic splendor and their messy complexity.”
And: The Restorative Power Of Love In An Either Or World, in this podcast, Felicia shares the message of her book. Touching on issues of race, body, motherhood, church, and wonder, Felicia offers her soul, and it is a wise, deep, creative, and generous soul. The restorative power and uniting thread of love, union, empathy, dualism, good and evil, and The Tree of Life, this conversation is full of hope, grace, wisdom, and revelation.
QUOTES:
“I exist to exist. I exist to love. I exist to receive Love as a continuous experience in my heart, to live in it and give it away to others.”
“Sometimes love pursues and sometimes love pulls back…”
“Empathy fosters deep knowing…it is the gateway to deep knowing.”
“One this empathy allows is a deeper knowing beyond context.”
“All things considered, what is the most loving thing I can do right now.”
For more on Felicia Murrell
Website: www.beinghumanmag.com
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Eternal Life with Jason Clark
This podcast features Chapter Three of Jason Clark's recent book, Leaving and Finding Jesus. "We have been invited to trade a finite perspective with an infinite eternal life revelation—Christ in us, the hope of glory—and nothing separates us from His love! In John 17, Jesus prayed that we would know this union, this oneness, just as He and the Father were one. Further, He revealed there is no darkness light won’t penetrate, no brokenness that won’t be made whole, no road He won’t join us on, no soil the Seed won’t transform, no consequence of sin that His justice won’t restore—past, present, or future..." To purchase the book you can go to https://a.co/d/cmOtbzh For more on Jason Clark Website: www.afamilystory.org Please rate, review, share, and subscribe! Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly
Cory Rice / Saints Not Sinners
Recorded in December of last year, Cory dives into our identity as saints and invites us to discover what God says and believes about us. The guys talk about restoration, transformation, grace, our Father's love, and living confidently in a relational understanding of God's love. Cory shares about his new book, What If I Told You. This book takes the reader on a 21-day journey to rediscover ourselves; grace, wholeness, being loved and union are the invitations of this book. Pastoring and counseling and practicing community, in this conversation they guys enjoy discussing how God is better than the last time they checked.
For more on Cory Rice
Website: www.saintsnotsinners.com
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Dubb Alexander / The Kingdom
“The Kingdom is the heart and the authority of God, from heaven, on earth, through us.”Rethinking Kingdom in the context of union, understanding the nature of the King, the penal substitutionary atonement heresy, a restorative understanding of the prophetic, how to receive or judge a prophetic word, holding on to what is good, dominion as opposed to domination, in this conversation Dubb Alexander gives insight into Jesus words, Repent, for the kingdom of heaven is at hand…God’s kingdom is within.
Quotes
“God has heavenly solutions for every earthly problem.”
“If Jesus said that the Father is just like Him, how does that affect your theology?”
“You can either agree with the entirety of scripture or you can agree with Jesus, but you cannot agree with them both because they do not agree with each other.”
For more on Dubb AlexanderWebsite: www.schoolofkingdom.com
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Friendship with Derek & Jason
“Friendship is born at that moment when one person says to another: ‘What, you too? I thought I was the only one.” C.S Lewis
From Romans Road to The Emmaus Road, Derek and Jason celebrate and revisit 2023 while dreaming dream into 2024. Two friends tell stories, reminisce, and wonder at the goodness of God. From reformation, restoration, reconciliation, righteousness, peace, and joy to community, kindness, and transformation, the guys share some of the ways they have been rethinking, particularly around a deeper understanding of friendship—friendship with Father, Son, and Holy Spirit and friendship with each other. Eventually, as always, the guys talked about Love, the heights, depths, lengths, and widths.
QUOTES
“It could be fun is how I’m entering this year.” Jason Clark
“What would Love do?” Derek Turner
“Love is the wisest friend; it is the Holy Spirit's voice.” Jason Clark
“When you begin to rethink the goodness of God (as Jesus revealed it), you can relax and love people well.” Derek Turner
“More el pastor in 2024.” Derek Turner
You can learn more about the podcast at:
www.afamilystory.org
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Matt Spinks / Ecstatic Joy!
For many, the message of Jesus Christ has not been associated with the overwhelming joy of living. The world is often filled with so much discouragement, depression, and striving just to be happy. In this conversation, Matt talks about his book "High on God," which presents an authentic solution in a radical approach to Jesus! The guys discuss an ecstatic joy discovered at His Cross that brings a sense of satisfaction and completeness, so we are actually able to live & love confidently. Church community, righteousness, peace, and joy, our mystical union, the presence of God, encounter, bliss, measureless favor, and a happy God; in this podcast, the fellas get down to the serious business of joy. QUOTES “In the Western Church, in some ways, we are afraid of spirituality.” “Cessationism isn’t based on an experience it’s based on something you haven’t experienced yet.” “God is happy. He is not against pleasure; He is the author of pleasure.” “Our view of Jesus is still too small.” For more on Matt Spinks Website: www.thefirehouseprojects.com Please rate, review, share, and subscribe! Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly
Paul Golf / The Gospel 101 - Inexpressible & Glorious Joy
The Trinitarian, mystical, joy-filled, supernatural good news, the mass exodus from the Christian institutional experiment we call 'church,' what 'mission' looks like for us in the 21st century with a non-toxic gospel, and the supernatural reality of living in union with the Father, Son, and Spirit, in this conversation, Paul and the guys dive into inclusion, evangelism, the creative spirit, the prophetic, the flow of compassion, and the wonder of hope.
QUOTES
“Religious people talk about hell; spiritual people have been there.” Wm Paul Young
“The more we see him, the more we become like Him.”
“At its heart, our faith has a mystical and mysterious axis that can only be experienced and encountered, it can't be intellectualized. Even though there's value in intellectual pursuits, it's always secondary.”
“What happens when we take inclusion seriously?”
“I’m an evangelist at heart. I used to think I was bringing Jesus to people. Now I understand, actually, Jesus is already there…”
“If it’s not inexpressible glorious joy, you have a gospel problem.”
“The power of heaven is not based on control. The government of heaven is not based on law. And the warfare of heaven is not based on violence.”
For more on Paul Golf
Website: www.championsofhope.co.uk
To learn more about Derek and Jason or to sign up for the mailing list, go to www.afamilystory.org
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David Artman / The Necessity Of Christian Universalism
“For it logically follows that if God is all-good, all-knowing, and all-powerful, then God must also be all-saving.”
Often dismissed as a modern feel-good theology, Christian universalism is an ancient, orthodox, and biblical theology that was expounded by early Christians and early church fathers. Artman brings much-deserved attention to this wonderful spirituality.
In this conversation, David Artman shares that grace saves alone and goes to all. This inclusive approach to Christianity is variously called universal reconciliation, universal salvation, or perhaps most accurately, Christian universalism. David shares that the inclusive/Christian universalist approach is necessary because it offers the only Christian theology that successfully defends the goodness of God.
For more on David Artman
Website: www.davidartman.net
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Ryan Pena / God Is Good; Jesus Is The Model
Redefining deliverance, principalities and powers, strongholds and spiritual warfare, revival, intercession, prayer, worship, the prophetic, the fall, and sin, all in the context of union; in this conversation, Ryan and the guys talk about the unchangeable goodness and love of the Father, grace, union, purpose, and connection.
The guys discuss how, as we grow sure in love, and as we journey further into grace, we continue to find more expansive language for union.
Quotes
God speaking to Ryan as the Author and finisher of his faith, inviting him to rethink— “I am supposed to be the author of your faith, but there have been pages written in your heart that I didn’t author; things that you believe that I don’t believe…”
“Deliverance isn’t a battle with demons it’s a shifting of agreement.”“Spiritual warfare is all about truth and lies.”
“We confuse dominion with domination…dominion is governing solutions…”
“If you're not preaching hard about the finished work and the righteousness of God, then you've watered down the gospel.”
“God is good; Jesus is the model.”
For more on Ryan Pena
Website: www.theryanpena.com
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C. Baxter Kruger / Christ In You!
Union, the gospel according to John, the nature of delusion, everlasting mercy, early church fathers and mothers, the always good nature of God, a prophet in his hometown desperation, the wrath of God, hell, freedom, salvation, holiness, the Fatherhood of God before creation, the incarnation, a prophet in his home town, the cloud of witnesses, the all-inclusive vicarious humanity of Jesus, the good Shepherd, in this conversation Baxter reveals the gospel as very good news—Christ in you! Plus, crawfish tacos!
The learn more about Baxter go to:
www.perichoresis.org
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Heather Hamilton / Returning To Eden
Do you resonate with aspects of Christianity but struggle with the coherence of its claims? After having a mystical experience that upended her traditional evangelical beliefs, Heather Hamilton reluctantly found herself in this place. Her seeking led to the most unexpected insights. In this conversation, Heather shares that story and introduces her book, Returning To Eden.
Love, trust, scripture, re-discovering Jesus, sacred moments, the hell of separation, and a God who is love and never leaves, in this conversation, Heather and the guys dive into a Faith that is no longer a white-knuckled grip on implausible beliefs, but a relaxation into a deep inner knowing.
Jared Scholz / Sandbox To Museum
“Wherever there is a culture of certainty, there is a culture of hypocrisy.” Jared Scholz Faith has its messy seasons of intense digging. Some will carelessly demolish the precious hope, like a child with a Tonka truck in the sandbox. Others will work like measured archaeologists to uncover the museum-worthy gem they’d hoped for. Following Jesus in real time, living responsive, rediscovering Jesus, an evolving and maturing faith, Love being our Cornerstone, the church, growing in trust, and humble leadership, in this conversation, the guys dive into Jared Scholz’s new book, Sandbox to Museum, a book that seeks to clarify the deconstruction landscape and help readers avoid the pitfalls of modern deconstruction. Please rate, review, share, and subscribe! For more on Jared Scholz Website: www.jaredscholz.com Facebook: www.facebook.com/jared.scholz.1
Jonathan Foster / indigo: the color of grief
"Exquisitely etched, in a luring cadence, a daughter lost, a family fractured, fractioned, all in the lower case, not shouting at us, but hard to read. I had to stop and regain my composure. What is this terrible beauty? Not a theology but something softer, more delicate, unprotected, exposed. What is this? A moving poem, certainly, but also a prayer, a wounded word, a broken hallelujah, where a random hug, a hand held through the night, a shoulder touched, are the only amelioration, the only God worthy of our time, the only God there may be, the only way to keep the future open." John Caputo In this conversation, the guys discuss Jonathan's new book, indigo: the color of grief. This conversation invites the love of God into our loss, disappointment, and fragile trust.
Robin & Steve Smit / Free To Give
This podcast features, Steve and Robin Smit. In October of 2022, the Lord asked Robin if she would put her own writing aside and build The Writer's Society. There is a tremendous need for a grace-based, author-empowering, Trinitarian, Christological-focused publishing company! Steve and Robin launched The Writers Society—TWS—and have been writing, editing, and publishing since. In this podcast, they share about the publishing company and a new book, "Free To Give." In a world where the act of giving is often burdened by expectations and legalistic constraints, “Free to Give” emerges as a guiding light of grace and liberation. If you’ve ever been shackled by the weight of ritualistic and obligatory giving or the oppressive thoughts of giving to meet performance standards, this book is your path to freedom. In this podcast they discuss “Free to Give,” and the twelve co-authors who extend a heartfelt invitation to experience the transformational power of giving in its purest and most unrestrained form. Drawing from a wellspring of wisdom and personal experiences, these co-voices offer the opportunity to discover the joy of giving without the constraints of obligation. For more on Steve & Robin Smit: www.thewriterssociety.online
Troy McLaughlin / This Undivided Life
Troy McLaughlin, host of This Undivided Life Podcast, and the guys talked about wholeness. Derek and Jason shared about their journeys and the inception of Rethinking God with Tacos. The guys talked about Jesus as perfect theology, de-reconstruction, an Emmaus Road Jesus, revelation, the resurrected Christ, the burning heart, waking up to wonder, a father’s love, the incarnation, our humanity, sufficient grace, a God who never leaves, and an undivided life.
For more on Troy McLaughlin & This Undivided Life PODCAST:
This Undivided Life: www.thisundividedlife.libsyn.com
Brad Jersak / He Searched Until He Found Them
“There is no retribution in the nature of God. Period. He is love plus nothing…” A throughline of trust, the cross and cruciform love, the Church & Eastern Orthodoxy, Deconstruction and liberation from false constructs, leaving and finding Jesus, reorientation, faith, communion, miracles, suffering, loss, and the infinite healing love of God, abandonment and a God who never leaves, a Christocentric hermeneutic, penal substitution, eternal conscious torment and the nature of repentance, in this conversation Brad and Jason dive into Brad's book, Out of the Embers: Faith After the Great Deconstruction.
David Hewitt / Reconstructing Ecclesia
Many people consider organized religion to be irrelevant today. ‘From its humble beginnings like a simple fishing boat carried by the wind, it sometimes seems that the church has morphed into a vast container ship, set on fixed courses, running on dirty fuel oil, very slow to turn around and encrusted with barnacles and weeds en route. Why not just abandon ship and simply relate to God ourselves, when and how we want to?’ In this conversation, David Hewitt and the guys discuss Church and deconstruction without throwing the baby out with the bathwater.’ David shares his story as a pastor as he rediscovers the ecclesia through a grace-orientated, Trinitarian lens.
Brooke Waters & Liz Koepp / Path To Wholeness
Sozo, wholeness, community, purpose, reimaging the goodness of God in the midst of church rejection and trauma, the language of encounter, leaving an angry God and shame and condemnation, belonging and the joy and hope of our union, healing, in this podcast, Brooke Waters, Liz Koepp, and the guys reimagine wholeness through heart-to-heart connection with a trustworthy God who has always looked like Jesus.
They also discuss the upcoming women's retreat being hosted by Path to Wholeness, Nov 6-9, 2023.
You can learn more and sign up here: www.pathtowholeness.org/wholeness-retreat
Andre Rabe / All Creation Is Incarnation
“The universe has a direction; it is moving toward greater meaning and beauty, it's an unfinished story, and the end has not been determined. You have been invited to author this specific chapter.” Andre Rabe is a storyteller, theologian, philosopher, author, and public speaker, and in this conversation, the guys talked about union, open and relational theology, inclusion, Christ within us, and how “all creation is incarnation.” For more on Andre go to: www.alwaysloved.net To join the Facebook Group: www.facebook.com/groups/godandtacos Please rate, review, share, and subscribe! Podcast intro and outro music by Wilde Assembly.
Make Room with Derek Turner & Jason Clark
Derek and Jason highlighted the connections being made on the Rethinking God with Tacos Facebook Group.
The guys also discussed Derek's new book, Make Room, a 21-day journey through the Gospel of John. Derek wrote this devotional to help strengthen our trust in our God's unconditional love, melt fear from our hearts, and help us see ourselves through the eyes of our Father.
The conversation also touched on inerrancy and infallibility, seeing Jesus as the perfect theology, love being our guiding principle, worship songs that emphasize the finished work, and spiritual maturity.
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Derek Vreeland / Centering Jesus
In this podcast, Derek Vreeland shared about his new book, Centering Jesus. The guys focused on the centrality of Jesus in spiritual formation, ethical lives, and community life. They discussed the importance of love, unity, and tapping into the imaginative side of faith. They also touched on the significance of the Bible and the image of Jesus as the ruling and reigning King. They concluded by emphasizing the importance of love and unity within the church as a witness to the world.
John Chaffee / The Restoration Of All Things
Shifting from Western theo-logic to Eastern theo-poetics thinking, vulnerability and transformation, Eneagram5, narcissistic pastors and healing, disrupting the institution, rethinking Job and “upgrading” faith, kayfabe, apokatastasis and a better gospel, interpreting The Prophets with restoration not damnation, and spiral dynamics, in this conversation John Chaffee and the guys dove into the restoration of all things.
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Cathy Little & Melinda Wilson / Face To Face
Face-to-face encounter, the Emanuel Approach to heart healing, the Celtic way of evangelism, mirror neurons, discipleship, transformation, belonging and becoming, renewing our minds, discovering the connection of all things, establishing identity, meditation and changing neural pathways; in this conversation, Melinda and Cathy talked about how to actually experience deep heart connection with God and each other.
Mike Zenker / Understanding Forgiveness
“Forgiveness is an event and a process… Forgiveness came to me…”Christ, within you the hope of glory, the journey of union, discovering our identity, speaking to light within people, no us and them, no hierarchy in love, embracing mystery and asking questions, hope, forgiveness, authentic restoration, and the eternal nature of reconciliation, in this podcast the guys talk about their rethinking journey in the context of pastoring, and Mike shares his powerful story of healing and the journey of forgiveness and a hope that won’t disappoint.
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Randall Worley / When The Church Was Young
Theology and methodology, communal learning, asking questions and discussing false narratives, theodicy, rethinking atonement theories, the stages of faith - simplicity, complexity, perplexity, harmony (Brian McLaren), deconstruction, liturgy, the lectionary, spiral dynamics, and first-tier thinking, the stories we tell ourselves about ourselves, and letting God tell our story; in this podcast, Randall and the guys talk about a theology of love as revealed through the incarnation.
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Lakhi & Giovanna Dadlani / Hope 4 Life
“Nothing is wasted… God meets you where you are and gives you what you need at the moment you need it.” Emotional maturity, connection, inner healing, transparency, vulnerability, transformed lives, and above all, hope; in this podcast, Lakhi and Giovanna Dadlani share their 30-year journey to emotional and spiritual wholeness, true identity, and our Father's love. Their personal well-being journey ultimately culminates in the beautiful Hope4Life community in Miami.
www.hope4lifemiami.org
Catherine Toon / Marked By Love
“Love is not only a powerful emotion, but a person.” Experiential knowing, discovering our identity, helping people encounter love, connection, union, intimacy with God, the value of our humanity, the mystery of maleness and femaleness represented in the Godhead, and apocatastasis; in this conversation, Catherine and the guys explore the perfection of God’s love both male and female and invite the listener to know Gods personal love for themselves.
For more on Catherine Toon
Website: www.catherinetoon.com
Facebook: www.facebook.com/CatherineToonMD
Instagram: www.instagram.com/catherinetoon
Mark Batterson & Joel Clark / I Changed The World
“Jesus is the dictionary in which we look up the meaning of words” – Eugene Peterson. A God with smile lines, loving our enemies, recognizing miracles, proactive love, finding God in the midst of story, living a better story, awakening to a better gospel, the power of please, sorry, thanks, the breath of God, hindsight bias, imaginative meditation, and fantastical storytelling, in this podcast, Mark Batterson, Joel Clark, and the guys talk about the love of God discovered in storytelling and share about their new book series, I Changed The World. This bible story adventure series is aimed at tweens ages 9-12. The first title, David, is available now. For more info on, I Changed The World Website: www.ichangedtheworldbooks.com Available on Amazon
Jared Neusch / A Christocentric Hermeneutic & A Non-Violent God
The doctrine of inerrancy, a Christocentric hermeneutic, the multiple genres of literature within the bible, Jesus as perfect theology, intimacy, trust, and the goodness of God, overcoming evil, loving our enemies, a non-violent God, forgiveness, the American Church’s’ obsession with retribution, Christocentric pacifism, our interconnected-ness, justice; in this conversation, Jared Neusch and the guys dive into a Christ-Centered approach to life, faith, and Scripture.
Dr. Matt Pandel / Living In The In-Between
“God here, I stand in you, God help me” Martin Luther. The reality of our completion, a pure grace, objective truth (Jesus), experiential truth (how we live it out), union and the God of the promises, evangelism, the ministry of reconciliation, law and grace (never the less, Christ is preached), obedience, community and healing from church trauma, in this podcast, Dr. Matt Pandel and the guys discuss faith, trust, and tacos.
John Blase / Are You Letting God Love You Today?
"Are You Letting God Love You Today?"
Abundant life, the goodness and the GODness of God, loss, suffering, and trust, grieving and grace, and more grace, healing, embracing the heights and depths of the human story, becoming like Jesus, poetry and faith —in this podcast, John Blasé and the guys have a vulnerable conversation about life and trust and the GODness of God. John shares about his friendships with Brennan Manning and Eugene Peterson and the impact they both had on him and our world today.
Brittney Serpell / Imperfect Parenting
The true goal of parenting—safe, loving, heart-to-heart connection with our kids—in this podcast, Brittney Serpell shares about growing mature in our own identity as parents, modeling repenting and humility, finding courage to fight for family, recognizing fear, control, and punishment in our parenting, trading perfectionism for trust and always pursuing heart-to-heart connection as we guide our kids on their own learning journey to becoming healthy, confident, emotionally intelligent, and strong in character.
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Mark Appleyard / Dignity: The Leading Edge Of Love
Redefining success, living loved—from Jesus, laying our lives down for one another, awakening to a union, living from rest, the peace that surpasses understanding, human flourishing, and dignity as the leading edge of love; in this podcast, the guys dive into how dignity seeks to protect the image of God in a person. Dignity treats every human interaction as if it were eternal.
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Joe Chadburn / Peace Is Inevitable
“The greatest manifestations of justice will find their genesis in a grassroots love for all mankind. I have more hope in a trickle-up effect vs the hierarchal top-down pyramid paradigm.”
Justice, love, respect, our shared humanity, a discussion around Christian Zionism and the peace of Jerusalem, ETC, and a shift in hearts and minds around war and the inevitability of peace; in this conversation, the guys connected with Joe Chadburn around the finished work of Jesus and an inevitable peace on earth as it is in heaven.
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Steve McVey / Quantum Life
“God didn’t want me because of anything I could do for Him; He wanted me just because He loves me.” Paradigm shifts, intimacy, eternal life, practical applied theology, a sustaining energy of a more subtle kind, the connection of all things, quantum science, quantum faith, the supernatural, miracles, signs and wonders, and union; in this conversation, Steve dives into the scientific universal nature of the love of God.
“I am not a biblical universalist… but you might call me a quantum universalist…”
“I don’t believe in ultimate reconciliation; I believe in historic reconciliation. I believe everything and everybody has already been reconciled to God, and they just don’t know it. And conversion is a recognition of what's already true of you…
“Is the universe a friendly place, is God love — yes…
“This is eternal life, that they may know you…” John 17:3
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Website: www.stevemcvey.com
Quantum Life: Amazon Book Link
Logan Barone / The Mystery In You
“Did Christ accomplish a potentiality, or did Christ accomplish a reality?” Grace beyond theory, the road of union, discovering Christ in us and embedded in humanity, inclusion, the incarnation, experiencing God, and stories about church life and the journey of faith while searching for community; in this conversation with Logan Barone, the guys discuss the message of his book, The Mystery In You.
You can learn more about Logan at: www.loganbarone.com
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Pete Scheller / Dancing With Wisdom
“For too long the image and understanding of God, the One Jesus called “Abba”, has been hidden from view or distorted beyond recognition. The unspoken cry of sons and daughters all over the world is ‘Give us our Dad back!’”
A renewed mind, western wisdom vs. God’s wisdom, theology in relational terms, and above all, a Father who doesn’t just love us, He really likes us; in this conversation, Pete Scheller shares from his new book, Dancing with Wisdom. The guys dive deep into the Father nature of God and laugh along the way. You can learn more about Pete and his ministry as www.heartmindspirit.net
Rusty & Erin Pleune / Creating A Culture of Connection In Marriage
Hope, healing, intimacy, unconditional love, and acceptance; in this conversation, Rusty and Erin Pleune talk about the intentional steps they took to create a culture of connection in their marriage and how they now help couples do the same. They also dove into their journey of discovering community and deeper faith as they lean into the goodness of God.
You can learn more about Rusty & Erin & Making A Way at: www.makingawaymarriage.com
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